Folding Embedded/Transcluded Notes

I’ve seen this mentioned in a few places, but I think it needs more attention. An option to temporarily collapse an embedded note would be great! The main use case I see for this is a situation where you have a list of embedded files, say various talking points that have their own file. When you’re done reading, you collapse and open up the next one in the list.
I also think that any folding should remember its state, at least temporarily. That is a separate thread already though.

On a side note, when WYSIWYG comes around, it would be pretty nifty to edit embedded notes. Just a thought!

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Added “transcluded” to your topic title because that’s the exact term for embedding notes, so this idea is now searchable with both terms.

Re: your postscript—editable transclusions is on the radar. :crossed_fingers:

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The idea does seem pretty cool.

Sweet! I think it would add a lot to the versatility, like how Notion can be a notebook, knowledge manager, agenda, or database.

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+1 I was doing exactly this in Notion with their hacky block references workaround. I would embed content with toggles and open/close as I went through it.

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I actually like a lot of what Notion does. My main problem is that it is browser-based and online-only. I hope Obsidian can compete in a similar space someday.

An option in the settings to fold transclusions, just like headers & indents.

This of course would take place in the preview.

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For me that is the most interesting part of this request.

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+1 to editable/scaleable transclution

An emphatic +1 to Folding Embedded/Transcluded Notes.
Is this in the roadmap?
Thanks.

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+1 too.
It would be nice too if not only the whole note but the sections (headers, lists) would be foldable.

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I completely agree.

I was surprised that even though I have the settings for folding headers & indents enabled that I was unable to fold them in a transcluded note.

It’s awkward & counterintuitive to me to have a note where you can fold headers/indents & this note contain a transcluded note also with headers/indents, but the ones in the transcluded note to not be foldable.

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+1 Yes please on this feature! Would make embedding/transcluding a WAY more powerful tool.
Would be great for making big indexes/MoCs!

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I find that this would be a really helpful feature. I can think of many use cases, but will describe only one (different from the one above).

When making notes, I often like to have an ‘inset’ where I explore a matter, or describe an exercise. I would like to fold it this inset (transclusion) as it is not part of the main thread, so that it does not appear when I would like to focus on the main thread.

I have used headings to approximate this behaviour, but folding a heading also folds material below it until the next heading of an equivalent or higher priority.

A folding inset would be most useful in this regard, enhancing the clarity and succinctness of a note while still making available sub-threads from a different note. A folding inset that remembers its status across sync would be even better.

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I think this feature would be really valuable. As I don’t always want to see the sub bullets when I embed a note

Adding another +1 on this. The ability to fold embedded content seems highly intuitive and would be extremely useful.

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I totally agree with everyone, this is a really helpful feature to make dynamic document generated by previews more clear to read.

I’d like to see this, too. As a workaround, I sometimes put headers immediately above and below the transclusion so I can hide it, but that’s often awkward and it would be cleaner to be able to simply fold the transclusion, especially when the transcluded note already has its own header at the top.

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This feature is very important, as you can transclude large chunks of texts.

A workaround I use:
I make a bullet point which briefly describes the content of the embedded part,
and indent the embed.
This way I can easily fold the embeds, and end up with a bullet list of embedded notes.

Bonus points:

  • Use the “Creases” plugin for quickly folding all embeds in case they lost their folding state.
  • Create a link that folds all creases by using the Advanced URI plugin. This is how it looks: [Fold creases](obsidian://advanced-uri?vault=YOUR-VAULT&commandid=creases%253Afold)
  • You can put that link anywhere in the text. Or make it a button, using the “Buttons” plugin.

This is how the embedded text looks like:

- Description of embedded text 1 %% fold %% 
	- ![[Note#Header]]

- Description of embedded text 2 %% fold %% 
	- ![[Note#Header]]

Note: the “%% fold %%” is the Creases toggle. When you have the plugin installed, it shows a symbol instead.

PS:
Because some of you mentioned folding the header, and the problem being that everything underneath the header is folded as well, what I like to do is:

# Header A (to be folded)
text that should be folded
# ´
Text that should not be folded under Header A.
(The # ´ line "stops the folding".) 

# Header B
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