Can't drag heading to top or bottom of Outline

Steps to reproduce

Create a few headings (#) and one subheading (##) and try to move the subheading below the last main heading. (See attached video. It appears video uploads are not allowed.)

Did you follow the troubleshooting guide? [Y/N]

Yes, I confirmed the behavior in the sandbox vault.

Expected result

Moving a subheading below the last main heading should do the same it does as when moving the subheading below any other heading.

Actual result

Either doesn’t work at all or the subheading moves to the main heading above the last one.

Environment

SYSTEM INFO:
Obsidian version: v1.4.16
Installer version: v1.4.13
Operating system: Darwin Kernel Version 23.1.0: Mon Oct 9 21:28:31 PDT 2023; root:xnu-10002.41.9~6/RELEASE_ARM64_T8112 23.1.0
Login status: not logged in
Insider build toggle: off
Live preview: on
Legacy editor: off
Base theme: dark
Community theme: Minimal v7.3.5
Snippets enabled: 4
Restricted mode: off
Plugins installed: 6
Plugins enabled: 4
1: Minimal Theme Settings v7.3.0
2: Style Settings v1.0.7
3: Templater v1.18.0
4: Dataview v0.5.64


Additional information

MOD EDIT: Headings can’t be dragged to the top either, and drag attempts can change what’s possible. See posts starting at Can't drag heading to top or bottom of Outline - #4 by aaronbell for details.

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This was an issue for me for quite some time on iOS (not sure about desktop) but may have been fixed recently? To my surprise it seems to work as expected in v1.12. EDIT: It failed on me once after an app restart but otherwise seems to be working.

Changed title to reflect new discovery that we can’t drag to the top either, and that attempting either can change what’s possible (was “Moving subheading below last heading in Outline doesn’t work”). Thread about the new stuff to be merged in below.

Steps to reproduce

  1. New note
  2. Make a few headings
  3. In the outline tab, try dragging a lower heading to the very top - can’t (it worked once, and I don’t know what was different)

Did you follow the troubleshooting guide? Y

(I was able to reproduce this in a Sandbox vault)

Expected result

The dragged lower heading to go to the top of the outline.

Actual result

Dragging a lower heading to the top resulted in no change.

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Environment


SYSTEM INFO:
Obsidian version: 1.12.4
Installer version: 1.10.3
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro N 10.0.19045
Login status: logged in
Language: en
Catalyst license: none
Insider build toggle: off
Live preview: on
Base theme: dark
Community theme: none
Snippets enabled: 1
Restricted mode: off
Plugins installed: 7
Plugins enabled: 4
1: Hotkeys for specific files v1.4.1
2: Excalidraw v2.19.2
3: Recent Files v1.7.6
4: Tag Wrangler v0.6.4

RECOMMENDATIONS:
Custom theme and snippets: for cosmetic issues, please first try updating your theme and disabling your snippets. If still not fixed, please try to make the issue happen in the Sandbox Vault or disable community theme and snippets.
Community plugins: for bugs, please first try updating all your plugins to latest. If still not fixed, please try to make the issue happen in the Sandbox Vault or disable community plugins.

Additional information

(Thanks for all your help.)

Closest I got to a related post is Outline - Drag and drop headings doesn’t work, but that isn’t quite the same.

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I can reproduce in my personal vault. I am able to move it there eventually but it takes several tries, and as in the report I see no difference or reason why some attempts work. May be the same bug as Can't drag heading to top or bottom of Outline which has existed for some time.

EDIT: Actually the other bug might have cleared up. And after dragging a heading to the bottom, I was able to consistently drag headings to the top. To verify I restarted the app. Once again I couldn’t drag to top. Dragged one to bottom, and then I was able to drag to top too (I had 1 drag-to-bottom failure but don’t recall when in the process).

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Thanks for the follow-up. I didn’t know about the drag-to-the-bottom part, but that’s an issue for me, too, now that I try it.

Also, strange. After I unsuccessfully tried a drag-to-the-bottom approach, I’m now able to put it at the top, too.

Given that they interact with each other, I’m going to guess these 2 bugs are connected enough to live in the same thread.

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