Horizontol rule stopped working, re: em dash

[Tesgin]

Just today, the feature to create a horizontal rule from three dashes stopped working, because Obsidian now automatically creates an em dash from the first two dashes: —-

I can create the horizontal rule from three underscores, but cannot do it from dashes.

This note and this note from a few years ago report the same issue. They both fixed by turning off “smart punctuation” in iOS. But I’m not in iOS; I’m in MacOS Sonoma 14.2.1. I’m in Obsidian 1.6.7.

I turned off “use smart quotes and dashes” in MacOS system settings >> Keyboard, but that didn’t fix it. It’s also not doing it in other apps; only Obsidian.

Doesn’t appear to be related to any plugins, 'cuz the behavior is the same in a sandbox vault with no plugins installed.

Is there a setting that’s changed? Am I missing something?

[ariehen]

You could check in System Settings > Keyboard > Text Input → Input sources as well.

[Tesgin]

Thanks for this. Yeah, I do have smart quotes and dashes turnd off, and I’m not getting the em dash thing in any other apps. Just Obsidian.

I know there’s been a recent update to Obsidian - a few weeks ago. Is this possibly a setting that mt hv changed? It’s only happening in Obsidian.

[StevenJackson]

I wish em-dashes worked for me! Obsidian is the only app I use on macOS that doesn’t convert -&- to —…

[Tesgin]

That’s ironic. I can’t get mine to stop it and you can’t get yours to do it. Weird.

[ariehen]

One thing you can try, it will only take a minute if you have a newer mac, is creating a test user account or switching to another user account if there’s one on the device already. Open Obsidian in that and make a test vault or open the Sandbox.

How’s the dash behavior in the second account?

If it’s fine, you’ll know it’s something in/about your main account causing the issue.

[anon45210282]

From the Obsidian menu bar, is Edit > Substitutions > Smart Dashes ticked?

[harr]

@anon45210282

From the Obsidian menu bar, is Edit > Substitutions > Smart Dashes ticked?

Good find! I never noticed this menu entry before.

[ariehen]

@anon45210282

From the Obsidian menu bar, is Edit > Substitutions > Smart Dashes ticked?

That’s grayed out for me. Never noticed or looked at that before though.

[anon45210282]

Hello.

Some menu items are greyed out if the current area of focus cannot use those specific menu items.

Not at a Mac to be able to check this, but do you see a difference if a file is loaded in the editor and the cursor is in the file, making it active? (Might be barking up the wrong tree. Got the idea from this link: Linguistic Focus - #5 by anon56864026 - Scrivener for macOS - Literature & Latte Forums)

[harr]

You found the right tree. Menu shows only what is possible with the currently selected input option:

• Reading view: everything greyed out
• Editing view and cursor in edior: everything selectable
• Cursor in Search input box: some items greyed out.

[anon45210282]

Thanks for checking this; not been back to a Mac yet to see things for myself.

Hope it resolves the issue for the users in this thread.

[StevenJackson]

Belated thanks! This sorted out em-dashes for me and gives me hope that there might be a way to implement the text features of Apple Intelligence soon…?

[Tesgin]

This worked!

Thnx