What I’m trying to do I used to be using Move Line Up / Move Line Down hotkeys very often to move items between lists that are separated by a newline. However, today I woke up and it feels like Obsidian is doing something unexpected even though the behavior is still called the same. Here’s an example: item 1 item 2 item 3 item 4 my cursor is somewhere at “item 3” and trigger “Move Line Up”, thus expecting to move “item 3” exactly one line up (i.e. swap it with the empty line): item 1 item 2 item 3 item 4 however, the new behavior seems to ignore empty lines and instead swaps the two non-empty lines: item 1 item 3 item 2 item 4 this is undesirable for my use case. Things I have tried Looking in settings for a toggle, looking for new hotkeys, briefly looking online whether someone brought it up, briefly looking if there’s a plugin that brings back the old behavior

Continue [image] Suggestions on how smart list actions should work Feature requests This thread will be used to collect feedback on how move live/up and indent/unindent should work within lists when smart lists are enabled. Please, write an example list (possibly a numbered list) and what obsidian currently does and what you want it to do and why. One post per example. NOTE: If you are asking for the introduction of new commands or toggles to alter what the commands do, you should open a separate FR. or [image] Separate commands for moving/indenting a single list item vs. all of it's children (or add toggle to change the behavior) Feature requests Alternative title: Create separate Move Single Line keyboard shortcut Alternative title 2: Remove new list line movement logic (but I know dev time already went into this and some people may like it so that’s unlikely) The new line movement logic added to lists in the latest release actively hinders keyboard only edits of notes. Things that used to be easy are now either impossible or significantly harder to achieve without using the mouse or a combination of Selection + Copy/Paste.` The keyb…

Oh well, looks like the formatting of the forum chipped at my example. I’ll write the same thing, but I’ll explicitly mark newline: State: item 1 item 2 (newline) item 3 item 4 I trigger “Move Line Up” on the line with “item 3” Expected: item 1 item 2 item 3 (newline) item 4 Instead since today (?) I get: item 1 item 3 (newline) item 2 item 4

Moving a line now moves the line and its nested items. Quoting the changelog: Obsidian Changelog - Obsidian With Smart lists turned on, indenting, outdenting, or moving a list item up or down now also moves the items nested under it. Pressing Enter at the end of an item with nested items now adds a new first nested item, or a new item below it if the item is folded. I do not know how to bring back the old behavior exactly other than a new plugin. Or a feature request. The options right now seem to be disable Smart lists (and lose indentation when pressing enter and lose all auto-numbering), break the list, freely move lines, and then toggle lines back into being list items, cut and paste the line, being mindful to select entire lines (previously was simply have the cursor(s) or in the line or select any part of the line) and to match the cut-paste positions more carefully, compose in more limited locations, select differently than before, and move differently than before (this tends to mess up at some point anyway, leading to time spent repairing), and other such (in my opinion) frustrating workarounds. correction: Auto-indentation when pressing enter occurs even with Smart list turned off. And edited my tone while I was here, now that my frustration has abated.

By the way, you can put text in a code block in the forum (Posting code or preformatted text - Using Discourse - Discourse Meta) the same way you would in Obsidian to preserve the format, using three backticks above and below: - a - b - c - d

Did "Move line up/down" behavior change something and how to bring it back?

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WhiteNoise November 6, 2026, 10:16pm 7

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