# \- Setup Zettelkasten. But how? **URL:** \ **Category:** Knowledge management\ **Created:** [July 12, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/setup-zettelkasten-but-how/85224 "2024-07-12T18:59:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Edmund](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/edmund/32/28146_2.png) [@Edmund](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/Edmund)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/setup-zettelkasten-but-how/85224/1 "2024-07-12T18:59:14Z")
The Obsidian Forum offers a variety of Zettelkasten setup options. But which setup is best for you? This “Setup Level Model” for the Zettelkasten methodology with five stages—from simple to sophisticated—identifies key elements that enhance the complexity and functionality of our system. ![image](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/f/6/f66c1fec0b4fb08755cca5cd59c961ee126cf244.png) Here’s some help from previous posts: **Level 1** - [Introduction to the Zettelkasten Method](https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/) **Level 2** - [An Obsidian Experimentation Starter Guide](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/an-obsidian-experimentation-starter-guide/19580) - [Ideaverse for Obsidian (formerly the LYT Kit)](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/ideaverse-for-obsidian-formerly-the-lyt-kit-now-available/390) - [New User: Zettlekasten-ish simple setup](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/new-user-zettlekasten-ish-simple-setup/84679) - [Packaged setup plugin](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/packaged-setup-plugin/69644) - [PARA Starter Kit](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/para-starter-kit/223) - [PAAN Starter kit](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/paan-starter-kit/21782) - [Obsidian Starter Kit - Zettelkasten Style! (Unfinished)](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-starter-kit-zettelkasten-style-unfinished/61) - [Obsidian Resources](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-resources/81835) **Level 3** - [Obsidian-Zettelkasten Starter-Kit](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-zettelkasten-starter-kit/51090) **Level 4** - [Inspect and Adapt Your Process](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/inspect-and-adapt-your-process-about-zettelkasten-analytics/36799) - [Search and retrieve notes](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/search-and-retrieve-notes-how-do-you-search-in-zettelkasten/65386) **Level 5** - [Simplify Zettelkasten. But how?](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/simplify-zettelkasten-but-how/81090) Tell me if you’ve already found your personal setup level. Which links should be added? * * * More about the [12 Principles For Using Zettelkasten](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/12-principles-for-using-zettelkasten/) ---
**Author:** ![dylanjr](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/dylanjr/32/53421_2.png) [@dylanjr](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/dylanjr)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/setup-zettelkasten-but-how/85224/2 "2024-07-12T20:38:50Z")
> [@Edmund](#): > > **Level 5** > > - [Simplify Zettelkasten. But how?](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/simplify-zettelkasten-but-how/81090) Ahh yes. Reminds me of the [bell curve meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/iq-bell-curve-midwit). And I agree. Simplify. Or, as in the military, KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid. I’m always looking for ways to do _more_ with _less_ in my vault. I’m finding these [12 Principles For Using Zettelkasten](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/12-principles-for-using-zettelkasten/) discussions very helpful. Your graphics are fantastic! Also, I noticed you list Power BI under “Tools” in the image you shared. I’m curious, is Power BI something you use often in the context of Zettle or PKM? Or if that more of a crossover from your role as Data Scientist? ---
**Author:** ![Edmund](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/edmund/32/28146_2.png) [@Edmund](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/Edmund)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/setup-zettelkasten-but-how/85224/3 "2024-07-14T10:15:08Z")
> [@dylanjr](#): > > I’m curious, is Power BI something you use often in the context of Zettle or PKM? Or if that more of a crossover from your role as Data Scientist? It’s more of a crossover. PowerBI has all the features to analyse data from Obsidian. It’s done in three steps: 1. Select data of interest by creating a query with “Dataview” plugin. 2. Export data by using the “Table to CSV Exporter” plugin. 3. Import CSV data to PowerBI. But there is a second way to visualize your Obsidian data: 1. Select data of interest by creating a query with “Dataview” plugin. 2. Build a data visual with “Charts” plugin. Benefit from the second solution: Live data visualization without export and import of data. Benefit from PowerBI: More sophisticated analysis available. And to conclude with a question: How do you analyze your Obsidian data? ---
**Author:** ![dylanjr](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/dylanjr/32/53421_2.png) [@dylanjr](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/dylanjr)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/setup-zettelkasten-but-how/85224/4 "2024-07-14T15:33:29Z")
> [@Edmund](#): > > PowerBI has all the features to analyse data from Obsidian. It’s done in three steps: > > 1. Select data of interest by creating a query with “Dataview” plugin. > 2. Export data by using the “Table to CSV Exporter” plugin. > 3. Import CSV data to PowerBI. That’s really cool! I’d love to look into this more myself. Not that I need advanced data analysis features for my vault. But more bc I’m a nerd and love when data is conveyed _elegantly_. Thanks for sharing your process for analyzing data from Obsidian. > [@Edmund](#): > > How do you analyze your Obsidian data? Really just using Dataview currently. I’ve scaled back my plugin usage, and I can do everything I need within one plugin. Though I am thinking about ways I can start to leverage the data I’ve been accumulating to explore data science through person data projects. Also, as this is a thread on setting up Zettelkasten in Obsidian, I thought I’d share 2 YT videos that I found helpful, in addition to the resources that you listed: - [Artem Kirsanov](https://www.youtube.com/@ArtemKirsanov)’s video [My simple note-taking setup | Zettelkasten in Obsidian | Step-by-step guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ySG7xYgjY) - [FromSergio](https://www.youtube.com/@FromSergio)’s video [My FULL Obsidian Zettelkasten Workflow in 10 minutes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRA_fwbdrtc)