# Obsidian load/freeze indefinitely or for a few minutes on MacOS **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug graveyard\ **Created:** [January 2, 2023, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195 "2023-01-02T07:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![louis030195](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/louis030195/32/16928_2.png) [@louis030195](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/louis030195)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195/1 "2023-01-02T07:34:05Z")
### Steps to reproduce I don’t know. Apologize. I have a very complex vault configuration. I have been using Obsidian for maybe 3 years, this happens since 1-2 weeks. ### Expected result Obsidian open ### Actual result Obsidian freeze/load indefinitely ### Environment - Operating system: ![image](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/3/2/320e5be02b586746cec57b53e6ad15d325618ddb.png) - Debug info: ? * * * ### Additional information Initially was suspecting we did something wrong with our plugin [GitHub - different-ai/obsidian-ava: Quickly format your notes with ChatGPT in Obsidian · GitHub](https://github.com/louis030195/obsidian-ava) but after deleting the folder from plugins (along other unused plugins), I still have this issue. Is there any cache somewhere I could clear, maybe? PS: I sync to icloud, obsidian sync, google drive, google photos, and git. ![image](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/a/a/aa514f2901df6c0543828fa2d2e135cd0714b13f.jpeg) ![image](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/a/5/a56e6190fef058fca93c0cc71e2fcb3f50d08c7c.png) Or is there anything else I could try? Thanks a lot 🙂 ### Potentially related topics > [@Obsidian keeps indexing my vault](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-keeps-indexing-my-vault/30636/11): > > On Windows 7 and Windows 8, you can [download iCloud for Windows on Apple’s website](https://updates.cdn-apple.com/2020/windows/001-39935-20200911-1A70AA56-F448-11EA-8CC0-99D41950005E/iCloudSetup.exe). > [@Workspace takes super long to load and then obsidian has to index my vault for half an hour and is very slow (Windows 11/ iCloud)](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/workspace-takes-super-long-to-load-and-then-obsidian-has-to-index-my-vault-for-half-an-hour-and-is-very-slow-windows-11-icloud/29501): > > Steps to reproduce opening obsidian Expected result That the app opens and is ready to use Actual result Obsidian takes super long to index my vault (usually takes about 30-40 minutes to index …/51). Also, I noticed that I sometimes get the message that the file has been modified externally (which sets me back for 1 or 2 characters). And Obsidian creates about 30 (not accessible) file copies of the file I am working on when that happens. But I don’t know if these things have anything to do… ---
**Author:** ![louis030195](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/louis030195/32/16928_2.png) [@louis030195](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/louis030195)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195/2 "2023-01-02T11:23:41Z")
Update: for some reason, Obsidian works again (had also issues with Finder BTW) I remember having similar issues after enabling iCloud (somehow crash the computer :), maybe too many things to back-up). I cleaned a bit of my storage (almost full, Docker takes crazy amount of storage…) and things went better. ---
**Author:** ![CawlinTeffid](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/cawlinteffid/32/82899_2.png) [@CawlinTeffid](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/CawlinTeffid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195/3 "2023-01-03T00:05:25Z")
If all of those sync services are syncing the same files to the same devices, that’s likely to cause problems (tho this isn’t one of the problems I’d expect). ---
**Author:** ![anon63144152](https://forum.obsidian.md/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@anon63144152](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/anon63144152)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 5:49am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195/4 "2023-01-03T05:49:19Z")
I have experienced the same issue in the last week, especially when renaming files and then Finder freezing out the whole Mac. I think in my case it is something to do with the vault being stored in iCloud. I have gone so far as to wipe my Mac and clean reinstall everything. Still got the same problem. I suspect this is down to Apple. I don’t have an Apple device that isn’t problematic these days. ---
**Author:** ![louis030195](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/louis030195/32/16928_2.png) [@louis030195](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/louis030195)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195/5 "2023-01-04T06:25:04Z")
The problem keeps happening, and I strongly suspect iCloud yes. Really annoying, It seems to occur when I boot my computer, so the workaround seems to wait a bit before opening my Obsidian ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/b/e/bec35fbd23ab28909bb6bfe62cb32eb82dd34019.png) [@system](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/obsidian-load-freeze-indefinitely-or-for-a-few-minutes-on-macos/51195/6 "2023-01-11T06:25:35Z")
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