LYT Kit (now downloadable!)

djdrysdale · 2020-10-24T15:22:54.329Z

In Graph View, open the Filters menu and enter it in the search bar.

alltagsverstand · 2020-10-24T15:25:08.774Z

Oh - this is an idea so simple I have never tried it out…

Thanks for pointing me to this!

guthrien · 2020-10-24T18:46:11.913Z

I also like many of the browser extensions that can grab Markdown sources, but I’m very sympathetic to the view that sources don’t need to be in my Obsidian workspace. To that end, I keep a separate inbox in Devonthink but I’ve also used Evernote and there are lots of alternative and cheaper options. I still cite the source in my notes, but what’s the benefit of those programs for web content? They save a web archive, which if you’re not familiar is the content of the page so it always displays as intended (besides external links) if the site disappears. Devonthink even has an option to do so ‘clutter free’ which removes all the ads, comment boxes, etc. Just another approach.

icebear · 2020-10-24T20:32:31.503Z

I agree with most of what you said on keeping a separate inbox, but:

the above tools do provide a clutter free viewing in Obsidian itself - if the content in question is primarily text
keeping sources in Obsidian allows for linking to them, which may be useful for some workflows
if you find sources are cluttering your view of notes in Obsidian, the filters above can resolve that easily - essentially splitting a vault on the fly as desired. This requires some deliberation before capturing sources, but once a system is in place should be seamless
I like cutting down the number of apps I’m using, if no functionality is lost - and find Obsidian very fast to work in compared to others like Evernote (which is a subscription service)

Not trying to convince anyone, just highlighting why I like this approach of Obsidian across the board. The workflow is still being tinkered with, but it’s getting better by the day.

Kabo · 2020-10-26T21:10:50.722Z

This has been a very illuminating thread, thanks! I read the LYT kit and after some friction, it finally clicked (I think) - MOC are to me like playlists in a music app or collections in Lightroom. This makes much more sense to my brain than the idea of maps, but that’s just me.

To use the structuralism example from above:

MOC - Structuralism would have everything I ever wrote about structuralism, including links to semiotics and, say Saussure.

Compiling a lower level MOC/playlist for ‘Lecture on Structuralism’ would look through the top one and link every that I could usefully incorporate into a 50 minute introductory lecture on structuralism plus related samples.

I personally wouldn’t structure them as nested MOCs or folders to avoid decision fatigue (does lecture on structuralism go under ‘lectures’, the course itself or ‘structuralism’?). I know it doesn’t really matter as I can find it later through the links, but I don’t want to have to maintain links in all sorts of directions…

Really enjoying thinking this stuff through, thanks for all the ideas!

nickmilo · 2020-10-26T21:39:57.507Z

You’ve got the right idea. “Playlists” is pretty accurate because of how fluid they can be, and how different “songs” can be in different playlists.

You’ve got it right with “nesting” as well. No real need. You can organize lower-level MOCs for the sake of your sense-making and retrieval, but you can do so in a non-rigid way

Leffi · 2020-11-06T21:17:48.210Z

Love this metod, thanks for shearing.

robertjy · 2020-11-11T01:22:53.817Z

@nickmilo Thank you so very much for this! Have spent the better part of two days running through your LYT Kit. It has been incredibly helpful given that I am new to PKM.

I am right at the start of a five month sabbatical with the intention to review the past few decades and the accumulation of ‘stuff’ wanting to sift, sort, streamline, study, so that I can serve people better for the next few decades.

Not long ago I came across the concept of ZK and knew it was something that would be beneficial for this period. I started looking around trying to at least get a better understanding of smart notes, linking, etc. I dabbled with Notion, and found Obsidian, the latter I love. Yet I have to say I found it difficult to start, and I probably an over organiser! The task ahead seemed too vast and overwhelming. Then I met the LYT Kit. Well, to be honest I am not sure how I even found the LYT Kit?! I just stumbled on it. At first I was completely overwhelmed by the volume of your information… and even with the ‘start here,’ I found myself following links and getting lost, and couldn’t make sense of what was being presented to me (face planting as I think about it). Persevering, I’ve read pretty much consumed everything in there, and click the light came on! I can really see how this will be so very beneficial for the task ahead.

Definitely going to follow your advice for newbies. The MOC is great! I can see already that MOCs are going to be so brilliant for what I seeking to achieve. Although, I think I am going to coin them WBs (WorkBenches), your visual reference really struck a chord with me and it helps me to visualise it that way rather than a map (not a fan of orienteering).

Nick, I am so thankful for the time and effort you have put into this! Consumed a fair few of your Youtube videos too! Again I cannot thank you enough for what you have provided, and you have not only helped a grey haired chap to make the best of the next five months, you’ve stopped him from pulling those grey hairs out! Keep being awesome bro!

nickmilo · 2020-11-12T17:45:32.771Z

Hey Robert, I was with you through every sentence, feeling what you experienced as you went along. For starters, I am so excited for you to have a five-month window of time where you can dial in your own PKM. I also commend how you’re bringing own take to the ideas you encounter.

Just make sure as you develop your system to continue to ask questions to the community. Oftentimes the feedback you’ll get can save you from countless pitfalls (at least it has for me). Best PKM travels to you!

danielelliotr · 2020-12-09T09:02:02.321Z

hey @nickmilo, I just discovered this whole world of PKM and Obsidian by stumbling across one of your YouTube videos. Thank you for introducing me to my latest addiction. On that note, I tried to download the LYT Kit several times but I am not receiving any emails after clicking subscribe. I would love to dive into Obsidian using the LYT kit as my hands-on guide. Any way we can make that happen? I appreciate you immensely. Thanks!

nickmilo · 2020-12-09T22:33:31.539Z

Thanks for the kind words

Here’s a list of troubleshooting pointers I’ve compiled from people who haven’t received the emails in the past:

Can you search your email for support@linkingyourthinking.com (don’t spam me now lol!)
Also, check your spam/trash folders
Are you using a Newton Mail email address? That’s been an issue
Can you input your info again and just double-check your email is accurately inputted?

Rainbow_CH · 2020-12-10T01:17:11.682Z

Thank you for sharing!
As a non-Native English speaker, it took me a long time to figure out what you were thinking and how to do…
And I have to say your theme is very well done

danielelliotr · 2020-12-10T03:14:32.289Z

@nickmilo Searching my inbox for support@linkingyourthinking.com did the trick for me. Thanks so much for the troubleshooting tips!

oxysmart · 2020-12-14T02:10:59.002Z

That interview opened my mind as how to go about implementing PKM. So we owe Ted Nelson for his pioneering work, just as Da Vinci didn’t build a helicopter or submarine.

rhdenh · 2020-12-15T21:05:58.901Z

Nick, I appreciate what you are doing. I am pretty new to this. Been using Roam for a few weeks. Considering Obsidian instead. I am a minister and have a question. I very much appreciate your note “making” idea instead of note taking. However, as a minister I write about the Bible. I would like to be able to reference the texts of Scriptures, as well as other important dogmatic books. I realize this is not really what you are advocating, but would it work for my situation? Basically, I would like to make a vault containing the Bible (God’s thoughts), and another containing the systematic theology of a certain theologian, (his thoughts) and then my own vault with my own thoughts. Does this make sense to do? I tried to do this in Roam but it could not handle importing a single chapter. Nick’s thoughts would be very much appreciated.