#7

@klass, You said, “. . . but the backlinking process will continue for a simple reason; backlinks are inherent to the linking process.”

And, @rigmarole mentioned a “Link” button in the Sidebar that is related to unlinked mentions?

I am still a very new user of Obsidian and also very new to this type of application. I don’t see any “Link” button at all. I see where I can choose between views in the sidebar but no option for making a backlink. In fact, automatic backlinking would be wonderful!!

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#8

First, to see the “Link” button, you need to have an Unlinked Mention. Meaning that if you are on the page “Hammerspoon”, and in another note you type the word “Hammerspoon” but don’t make it a link, it will show up in Unlinked Mentions.

Then, when you hover over the Unlinked Mention, you will see a little “Link” button appear.

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#9

I have a lot of cross-roads at links that are broad categories .

Exactly that. I wonder for myself if they would be better as hashtags or nothing at all. I’m coming to the point where anything less than 3 words (“Courses”, “Work”, “Deep Work”, “Freelancing”) will likely not become its own note and even just maybe become a hashtag.

And then “Courses” is one of those one-word links you mention, and suddenly it branches out into a dozen different topics and now I’m on a note about music production, completely derailing the thought process. It’s generic, and less helpful.

“Generic” is really good word to describe the property. Following along or passing through generic nodes is less helpful because the connections are too broad. Surprisal (Information content) gets lost [^1]. As opposed to niche or long tail I reckon.

For example, I have one note about a project I worked on. If I add a link to “work”, that’s generic, obvious and is not bringing me to a new thought-process.

On the other hand, I have a whole niche section about “Victorian-era Oil Painting”, which reminded me of two books I had read (“Hackers and Painters” by Paul Graham and “The Victorian Internet” by Tom Standage.)

When I juxtaposed those three ideas through linking, my mind was bent in a completely new direction for over a week.

Although interconnected ideas are actually one of my main topics. Randomness, entropy, mingling of ideas. This research paper “The Entropic Brain ” talks about how psychedelic drugs, for example bust open the default mode network of the brain and cause a lot of novel connections. Too much entropy, and it is meaningless chaos. Too little entropy, and you get stuck in narrow ruts of thought. (I’ll think more on this… ha!)

Oh man. That is so on-point. In fact, I’ve described Obsidian as a psychedelic discovery tool in the original sense of the word (Greek Psyche + Greek dēlos ‘clear, manifest’). That’s because it can make visible (dēlos ‘clear, manifest’) what’s otherwise hidden.

That’s why I’m relatively obsessed with the graph-view.

And yes, I think what we’re talking about here is exploring the threshold between “bursting open the default mode network” and “too much entropy, and its meaningless chaos” – The right “dosage” of backlinks :joy:

[^1] Claude Shannon’s definition of self-information was chosen to meet several axioms:

  1. An event with probability 100% is perfectly unsurprising and yields no information.
  2. The less probable an event is, the more surprising it is and the more information it yields.
  3. If two independent events are measured separately, the total amount of information is the sum of the self-informations of the individual events.
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#10

I saw your other thread about how valuable you think the graph view is, with thoughts about variables to change the view.

I’m beginning to sense the inkling of a plugin idea, where you could create temporary dynamic network links (like a list of Backlink connection rules, as a main example). And then - as a view - browse that temporary graph and see how it would look “if it were like this”. And while in that altered state ; ) you could set some of those links to be permanent.

But once the view is closed, no other permanent changes would have been made.

I think those kind of hypothetical, “counterfactual simulation” [Personal MBA] node graphs could be quite interesting.

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#11

I don’t think that what @akaalias is proposing is a counterfactual simulation. He asks for a certain type of filter, viz. showing nodes with backlinks only, filtering out the forward links. I may be on the wrong track again.

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#12

This is a wild idea and I very much want to try it out. If I understand correctly, it would alter the graph temporarily – and without changing the actual data – to show a different topology.

As a first ‘hack’, this could be done by simply randomizing how much weight a node gets. I might be able to put that together and report back. I’m moving places this week, but as soon as I get the time, I’ll report back :slight_smile:

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#13

@Klaas, but I am proposing that, as a reply to his great ideas.

#14

OK, I understand.

#15

Thank you very much @akaalias, this worked very well!

#16

Perfect, thank you. And regarding these unlinked mentions, It seems that it is unlikely to happen if all my notes use a UID such as today’s date or the YYYYMMDDHHmm format. May I ask how you identify your notes and do you regularly have unlinked mentions as a part of your use of Obsidian?

#17

Sorry, I don’t understand your question.

But you do bring up an interesting point, that if you are using titles are are just dates, or unique identifiers, unlinked mentions won’t really do anything. It would almost be more interesting if unlinked mentions would look at body content - as well as titles - for potential links. hmm…

#18

Any idea if this can be done in vscode

#19

Atom, Find and replace across files.
I just started researching this, so I’m glad I found this Atom solution before diving too deep. I’ve had Atom for ages and I swear to the learning Gods, that is one program that persists on baffling me. Considering I’ve been at this for multiple decades, that’s rather embarrassing. Suppose I wanted to try this. PRECISELY which Atom package contains such functions. I search the install menu for “Find in Project” and get at least 100 packages. I’m sure one of these are the one you have installed. Atom, to the best of my understanding comes barely able to create a text file. From there you can customize until it washes your dishes and puts them away in addition to solving problems quantum computers will have difficulty addressing. Apologies. I’m snarky by nature, it’s joyful intentions frequently fail to reach the reader. Point is, in Atom, open my vault, click on anything, the find menu is (empty), so I’m assuming that’s another “package” that needs to be installed?

BTW: Using Notepad++ (The info link # points to the page bookmark down the page a bit, but it’s all relevant): https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-find-and-replace-words-in-multiple-files/#:~:text=Remove all the files you,All in All Opened Documents.
It can also be done in DOS, but I’ve forgotten how to do that decades ago.

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#20

2020-08-27T13:37:00Z
Atom, Find and replace across files

Ok… never figured this out in in Atom but it was easy in Brackets (although it too has a ton of packages installed, it may be one of those that allows this), and it appears VS Code handles it easily out of the box. @verma (VS Code also identified all the references in .obsidian\cache as well… might want to be careful with that. I’m still new to Obsidian but don’t automatically assume I already know inside sys files what I’m doing.

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#21

@aegiswiz thanks for your feedback

Yes, I realized that the words in cache also gets picked up. However, VScode still gives you options to exclude files so I could still manage it.

Thanks a lot.

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#22

Yes, I agree with you. My question was poorly written. I have heard (read) others talking about Unlinked Mentions and I have always thought that they could be really useful. But, as you pointed out, with file names using dates or unique identifiers they will never be linked up. Or, I suppose I could write a sentence and casually slip in 202009190830 so I get an unmentioned link hit. But doesn’t that mean I have actually mentioned it?

Your comment about looking at body content as well as titles sounds great!

#23

Thanks a lot for the solution!

#24

This is a genius solution, thank you! great for renaming tags as well!

#25

Hi I have tested it with Editpad Pro 8 on more then 2000 notes and it can open a directory (your vault) and all subdiretories and all notes at ones. Then you can do a global replace of your tag in all files. You can also do “Save all files” and your are done in 5 minutes.

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#26

Oh my gosh @akaalias you are a lifesaver!! I just imported from Roam and had used a : to delineate hundreds of files. Your method allowed me to switch everything to a - and my Obsidian is so happy.!

Thanks again