Example Workflows in Obsidian

Looking at the 05 file with a Zettelkasten and 2 regular notes. I’m trying to understand how knowledge management and obsidian work, therefore, I have basic questions (sorry if they are too basic).

  1. When do you use Zettelkasten and when regular notes? I mean how do you decide?
  2. Do you create a vault for a project and then files within it for the books/authors you read?
  3. Would you take separate notes for quotes from external sources or place them all in one note?

Thank you.

Good stuff. Seems I started doing both intuitively. Exciting to see that there are people putting thought into such topics.

Reckon I have a Projects and IMF like approach, so PIMF it is :wink:

Edit: Probably PAMF

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thanks, this was helpful.

  1. Depends what you want. Zk is for creating an interlinked network of notes to help you generate new insights/ideas of/into the subject/conept you’re interested in.
    Regular notes are, well, regular, not necessarily interlinked, though they can be.
    You should read up about Zettelkasten, e.g. zettelkasten.de.
  2. Yes.
  3. Depends on how you want to use them: as part of your other notes, or as standalone bits of knowledge.

Thank you.

You’re welcome. There is also this set up by @lizardmenfromspace.

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Thanks!

Collating this here as well: IMF v3 - Advanced Starter Kit

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Thank you!

I loved to see these examples, thank you! I am starting my digital note taking habits and always found it hard to make them useful from the moment after I take them.

I’ve been deep down the Zettelkasten/Obsidian rabbit hole for the last two weeks and I’m becoming increasingly convinced this is critical advice.

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Hi, Thanks for the great work on the workflows. I am interested in the IMF flow. But am confused about how the Most used key words on the Index pages are updated? Is it automatic? also can you share your note taking flow? Thanks

Don’t want to be offensive in any way but this is “peanuts” when you really want to understand the work of Luhmann…

I more liked your advice to “just start making notes” and “see what structure emerges”…

Thanks for this, it was helpful!

Thanks it was helpful to structure out the folder dump of notes I put in to get started.

Hi Rik,
have you figured out any workflow in obsidian reflecting Zettelkasten method to share?

I haven’t found any useful at the moment.

Thanks in advance,
Giovanni

Think you should have a look at @nickmilo’s work.
Het has some great videos on Youtube about you’re asking.

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Thx Rik,
already following Nickmilo.

Thx for the hint.

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You’re more than welcome!

For years I worked on a workflow that once start in ORG-Mode…
Zettelkasten is very nice and I am a big fan of Niklas Luhman’s work and achievements.
We need to consider that Mr. Luhmans’ work was coined in a time where no access to computers (let alone desktop computers) was possible…

That being said:
In today’s day and age the influx of information to process is huge if you have a few Body of Knowledges to follow (like myself and many others).

My “Mental Model” as @nickmilo calls it in regard to my workflow to collect knowledge is very (very) similar to Nick’s approach.

I use “drops” (atomic notes), “clouds” (connected notes - Nick’s equivalent of MOCs), “concepts” (collections of “clouds”) and “knowledge models” (collections of concepts).
#drops, #clouds,#concepts and #knowledgemodel are the tags I use to indicate the type of note.

On top of that there is a #permafrost (tag) that is used to indicate that the content of the note is rather fixed and believed “firm”.

My motehertongue is Dutch and my whole note system is written in Dutch (also the tags which I translated). This to prevent copy and pasting stuff in English from the internet. I always (literally) proces a note when it come into my Obsidian Inbox which together with my Vault directory is the only place were I store Markdown-files (Daily Notes and Templates are stored seperately but that’s just for clearness), and of coarse the attachments are also stored seperatly allthough I am not realy convinced they should be?.

My notenames are readable text which directly show what’s in the note (not really what Zettelkasten does).

The Graph View is my index. My Python scripts generate TODO-lists and lexical analysis of the Vault.

I used Zettlr (before Obsidian) -> Only thing I liked in their system was the fact that everything was stored in UUID-note (kind of). The system was not able to handle big amounts of notes but it worked for including literally everything in your vault.

This “Knowledge System” works for me until it doesn’t anymore. Then I’ll have to go and search for other ways in order to keep it going. With this community and this great piece of software I am convinced I will keep on going until I am retired (which is still some 10 years to go).

Hope this has helped for you

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Perhaps this visual representation helps also

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