# Date & time property type doesn't display or edit seconds

**URL:** <https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-property-type-doesnt-display-or-edit-seconds/104154>\
**Category:** Bug graveyard\
**Tags:** properties\
**Created:** [August 17, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-property-type-doesnt-display-or-edit-seconds/104154 "2025-08-17T16:53:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![iglooforest](https://forum.obsidian.md/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@iglooforest](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/iglooforest)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-property-type-doesnt-display-or-edit-seconds/104154/1 "2025-08-17T16:53:28Z")

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### Steps to reproduce

1. Create a note with a date & time property with second-level precision (e.g. `created: 2025-08-17T12:39:34`
2. Hover over the date & time property, and a tooltip will report that the value is invalid because it contains seconds. The message reads: “Please enter a valid value. The two nearest valid values are 08/17/2025, 12:39 and 08/17/2025, 12:40.”: ![Screenshot 2025-08-17 at 12.43.12](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/c/b/cb189adc551a9a45e9c7086369e3b0fcb344f4b2.png)
3. Click on the calendar icon to edit the field, and there is no selector for the seconds time component

### Did you follow the troubleshooting guide? Y

### Expected result

1. There should not be a validation error for the date & time property types containing seconds.
2. You should be able to edit the seconds component of the time.

### Actual result

The tooltip message is a result of using `<input type="datetime-local">` performing input validation. There is an additional [`step`](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/input/datetime-local#step) attribute that can be set on the input tag. The value defaults to `60`, and so the validation and time editor popup only have minute-level granularity.

You can confirm this in the Obsidian Devtools by selecting the `<input>` element and in the developer console, entering `$0.validity`, which will print a `ValidityState` object with `valid=false` and `stepMismatch=true`.

If Obsidian were to specify `step="1"` on for this property type, then the date/time picker would have a second selector, and the field would validate.

 ![Screenshot 2025-08-17 at 12.46.04](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/c/2/c2d9498ea60c76722b7d37a9b6e6c6e49715c85f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![WhiteNoise](https://forum.obsidian.md/user_avatar/forum.obsidian.md/whitenoise/32/11_2.png) [@WhiteNoise](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/WhiteNoise)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-property-type-doesnt-display-or-edit-seconds/104154/2 "2025-08-17T17:02:46Z")

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ok, what you see is intentional.

Please, search/open a FR to add support for seconds in datetime properties.

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**Author:** ![iglooforest](https://forum.obsidian.md/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@iglooforest](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/iglooforest)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-property-type-doesnt-display-or-edit-seconds/104154/3 "2025-08-18T23:17:41Z")

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Done: [Date & time properties should be able to edit seconds](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-properties-should-be-able-to-edit-seconds/104211)

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**Author:** ![system](https://forum.obsidian.md/uploads/default/original/3X/b/e/bec35fbd23ab28909bb6bfe62cb32eb82dd34019.png) [@system](https://forum.obsidian.md/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.obsidian.md/t/date-time-property-type-doesnt-display-or-edit-seconds/104154/4 "2025-09-15T23:18:01Z")

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Closed on September 15, 2025, 11:18pm UTC

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