Appearance Settings Are Not Saved

What I’m trying to do

I’m trying to change the appearance of the ribbon via the ‘Manage’ button in Appearance → Settings. I change the settings (removing icons from the ribbon) and click Done. The new ribbon appears. But after I quite and reload Obsidian, the OLD ribbon with previous settings is back!

I am on Obsidian v 1.6.7 on an M3 Macbook Air running System 14.6.1

Things I have tried

I went through the change + reload procedure with wifi turned off. Problem persists. So this is not a sync issue. I am worried that my .obsidian folder is somehow screwed up but I can’t tell how.

I next tried to delete the Cache folder in the .Obsidian file. But there is no Cache folder (apparently it was not rebuilt after the last time I deleted it?).

Then I reinstalled Obsidian. No change.

Then I tried the same “change the ribbon” process in a different vault. That worked as expected.

So it seems there is something wrong with my Vault. How do I find the file(s) that are causing this weird behavior?

David

Maybe adding some more context could be useful here :blush: :

  • Where is your vault stored and do you sync your vault across devices ? (if yes, how ?)
  • Do you use any plugin ? (If yes, maybe one of the plugin is interfering ? :woman_shrugging: )
  • Does it happen with Restricted Mode turned On (+ no potential CSS snippet you might use and using Obsidian’s default theme) ?

To answer your question, I think but I’m really not entirely sure (:sweat_smile:) that what should appear in/be hidden from the ribbon is saved in the workspace.json in the configuration folder (.obsidian) of your vault.

Thanks! I will take a look at that.

The ailing Vault is stored in my documents folder on the computer’s drive. I use Obsidian sync to sync with other devices – iPhone and iPad.

I have a bunch of plugins and that is relevant, because in restricted mode, and in other Vaults, I don’t have this problem.

I never had a problem of this kind before I used sync to go back to an earlier version of a large file, copied some material, and pasted that into the current version of the same doc.

I will look at the workspace,json folder, but, as you suspect as well, I think there is a plugin messing me up here.

Would it be possible that your document folder is saved to iCloud ? :thinking:

Because I think that could potentially lead to issues with Obsidian Sync :

From Obsidian’s documentation:

If your vault is stored in any of the following locations, it’s likely being synced by a third-party service:

  • Windows: C:\Users\Username\Desktop or C:\Users\Username\Documents
  • macOS: /users/username/Desktop or /users/username/Documents
  • iOS: The iCloud folder within the Files app
  • Other: Any folder under a syncing service, such as Drive/my-vault, Dropbox/my-vault, pSync/my-vault, etc.

… As there’s an iCloud setting on Mac allowing us to sync the Desktop & Documents folders of a Mac with iCloud, I think (once more :innocent: ) that it can lead to conflicts/loops (and other similar troubles) one can encounter when using 2 sync services at the same time :blush:

I’m not an Obsidian Sync user so my knowledge is limited :see_no_evil:

Thanks for this. It prompted me to follow the documentation and move Vaults out of the Mac Documents folder.

After doing this and restarting, all looks good. However the problem remains.

In fact, it is getting worse. Now, when I reload Obsidian, the right sidebar shows blanks for “This Plugin Has Gone Away” even after I have closed those slots before quitting. And the left sidebar returns to a search from yesterday, even if I have closed the app in a different state (for example, a different search, or the Files list).

IOW, as time passes, the app’s refusal to remember changes in its state is becoming more and more of a real problem, where before it was just disconcerting.

The problem is specific to one Vault (unfortunately my main one).

Things I have tried:

-Clearing cache
-Reinstalling Obsidian
-Removing all workspaces

Nothing works. Except disabling community plugins, which is no solution at all. Being able to use these plugins is a lot of what makes Obsidian worthwhile.

Anyone have any other ideas?

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Turns out the solution to this was the dumbest possible: I just removed about 30 attachments that I had downloaded or screenshotted from the web to consider for a presentation I wrote as an Obsidian note (I used the Advanced Slides plugn and gave the talk from Obsidian without too much trouble.)

Something in one of those jpg or png files was messing with the Vault’s display settings. I don’t understand how that could be, but with those files out of Obsidian, the app behaves normally again.

All of this is very weird. Did disabling plugins make obsidian work?

Yes. No problems when in restricted mode, and no problems with other vaults. Something in those downloaded image files was making some plugin trip up. I could not figure out which, and didn’t have time to investigate every single one of 40 plugins. All in all, a strange experience!

FWIW, the trouble started after I used Sync’s version history to retrieve material from an earlier version of the note and paste it into the “live” latest version. So I just feel somehow Sync is involved in this. But, really, I have no idea.